DoH! i accidently uploaded the wrong tcl, it had some old typo's in it and was before i learned to declare globals *IN* the proc's really sorry (dont know why no one told me) as of Feb 04 1999, EZlink(fixed).tcl is the newest i promis this one works, if not, report the error to Darkbringer@rocketmail.com and i will let you beat me with a flaming hockey stick